I plan to attack their underbelly. Their haulers. Their money-print POCOs.

I'm sure this project won't be the downfall of GS but I hardly think this is the intent. The intent seems to be to give high sec PVP'ers a chance to shoot at Goons in high sec while not having to put up with war dec fees as they are provided by someone else.

To non-aligned rag taggers, that might actually sound like fun. Hell, it should sound like fun for Goons too, just another small piece of content for everyone involved.

And as demonstrated, when you attack poco's, goons show up, providing targets and gud fights for all.

You have a hangar full of T2 logi, T3 cruisers and battleships while the little bees are grinding structures in bombless bombers?!

I'm shocked over the obvious neglect of the well-beeing of the grunt bees.

Haha, that's what you take from that post?
To answer; The more reasons to invite them to stick it to the man(/goon). I'm sure you guys didn't want those ships anyways and stuff.

D.

Context is important, for that fight the goonies where all hi and mighty boasting about how they would pummel DH into non existance etc... the Elite nullsec dudes were gonna come to hisec and show how it was done.

An entire RVB fleet was chased to their home system and refused to undock while their goon brethren were being pummeled.

So yea, Dark Homeworld / Hisec won EVE that day and I'm sure we all want a rematch. Thanks for noticing.

D.

No. It's what The Mittani thinks who tells everyone in CFC to get into Naglfars. But "telling" is all he can do, because all the CFC can afford is replacing one bombless bomber a month and not a dread.

just when i start thinking that goons actually aren't such douches ...
...you guys still surprise me from time to time.

let him do his highsec poco project, it's a win win for everybody, and he'll even pay for it.


@ lucas, sry mate, -1

-2 for asking silly questions.

Kinda like how CFC won't use Dreads or Supers to counter the Archon.........or is throwing hundreds of dictors at them "the most effective ship at this time".........while you cry to CCP to nerf it...

Anywhoo.......carry on, I like where this is headed..

No see we are his puppets.

Also who said you could comment pet.

how long before this whole thing is a wash and Gevlon blames everything on the slackers and everyone else involved but himself

I think he is making content for eve which is only a good thing right?

and plus more players learning to pvp (which is the best part of eve by far)

Just saw one of the finest work of a goon member :

http://eve-kill.net/?a=kill_detail&kll_id=21398904

I believed that when you grow as a alliance or you improve yourself as a player, you standards will become higher but I guess it's not the same for all .

Priceless!

Might want to heed your own advice a bit

I'm not very good at nullbear politics but can anyone clarify the relation between space monkeys and goons, please?
From what I can see, they are equally bad at hisec but are there any other links?

D.

I'm sure the 21bil we killed on your SpaceMonkey's Alliance in a week is already replaced by more goodies.

I'm not ignoring anything, dear Lucas. I'm wondering what all these elite nullsec lords are doing in HISEC (capitalised for you there) flying badly fitted ratting/'pvp'/industry ships when NULLSEC is the place to be for them.

thus for me this proves 99% of the playerbase in null doesn't know what they are doing while said playerbase is the most vocal when it comes to boasting about how great they are.

Furthermore, you do what all your peers do when posting, you ignore the facts, you don't even bother to look at the numbers and repeat the same stupid one-liners ad nauseum. At least try and be civil by checking before posting, please?

The new alliance is very young and shows great potential to anyone that wants to see it.
They also couldn't be further away from Marmites, they don't do what we do but again, you don't want to see that because it doesn't fit your bias-bubble.

If an alliance restricted its operations to nullsec, it probably would not own highsec POCOs.

Marmite & CO dead convinced the mass killing of the dumb & hapless in highsec causes long term strategic harm to nullsec alliances. Nullsec alliance members dead convinced otherwise. Yet another immovable object meets yet another unstoppable force. Life goes on.

It's like poetry :3

You can't become a Goon. You must come to the game as one, by being member of their forum, called Something Awful.

If you are not there, but want to be with the Goons, you can only join one of the Goon pets, like SMA. They are practically the slaves of Goons, their CEOs have no word in decision making and if they don't fly enough bombless bombers, they are kicked from CFC (the Goon version of BoB). Once The Mittani ordered half of the SMA membership to be kicked because they were "carebears". Of course Goons don't have to fly bombless bombers to stay Goons, they are Goons by birthright.

It must be a party 24/7 in your head, lol.

Listen to me, my space is important, their space is irrelevant, only when we come there to shoot at stuff their space becomes relevant and it's inhabitants are clueless on how to behave in their space... ad nauseam, ad infinitum.

Pressing F1 during a slideshow or assigning drones and going AFK to find out hours later who won is the epitome of awesome.
Actually hunting equal targets and using strategy is a laughable ploy by the carebears to give their form of enjoyment meaning...

This is cool! Can I join you guys now?

1) Nice backpedal: criticism / -êkr+¬t+¬s+¬z(+Ö)m/ / noun
noun: criticism; plural noun: criticisms

the analysis and judgement of the merits and faults of a literary or artistic work.
"alternative methods of criticism supported by well-developed literary theories"
synonyms:evaluation, assessment, examination, appreciation, appraisal,...

2) You no blog, you no get to compare.

3) Haha, tryhard, trust me, no effort whatsoever goes into putting you in your place.

4) you are the group of chickenshit alts boasting with nothing to back it up.

Thank you, come again!

D.

Wrong: the idea works better now. You really don't think before you talk, right? Why did anyone join the Lemmings? What do we offer to our members. Not money or ships, there is no SRP. Or you think they joined for the joy of shooting POCOs?

No. People join for the chance of shooting war targets without paying war bill themselves. Can you tell any other reason for joining the Lemmings? And your answer to that is giving them more war targets.

We are getting more and more Lemming supporters in EVE. The following ships I got for free and I have 450 free Thrashers incoming in a few weeks.

Catalyst 100
Thrasher 55
Maulus 61
Rifter 142
Punisher 100
Coercer 109
Burst 163
Bantam 87

If you lose any of these ships, Go to Uedama VI - Moon 8 - Spacelane Patrol Logistic Support and ask Tora Oni for a new one. When we run out, we might get more in.....or not :) But as long as we do, they are free.

That's exactly how it works, a food critic has earned his due in the food industry, he knows what he is talking about and is accepted by the community in his role as critic. Same goes for any other critics.
He could have said: I don't like your blog and it would have been all good. To each his own.

You can tell stuff from the way I structure my post? Scrawling some nonsense and you, oh great one, infiltrate my deepest thoughts from it. Amazing.

Yet 'you guys' can't stop comming back for more, that's how I know you are hurt (you shouldn't be, it's a game afterall) and my posts are gud

I'll try one last time. It really could be a language thing...

Lucas, if I watched a movie and went to a public forum featuring let's say Spielberg where I'd proceed to jump on the stage, take the microphone and shout at Mr. Spielberg that his movie sucks ass because I say so. Let's say eyebrows would be raised, no?
That's all I'm saying on that particular point.

For the rest of it, I'm a big fan of Ironie and many posts in this thread breath ironie. The posters are oblivious to it, which makes it even more entertaining for me.

Some goons/neutrals posted some really insightful or funny stuff, I liked those.
It all adds to the in-game narrative.
But there are guys who take things too far or too serious, those I pester a bit

admittedly, I'm propably not good at it but my peers like it and I enjoy doing it, so I continue. Who knows, maybe practice makes perfect. Claiming you are a third party and thereby can judge my level of simpletonianism is again very droll but not intellectually honnest to say the least and is also more childish namecalling (a crime you wrongfully try to pin on me)

I'll try and refrain from going off on a tangent here in this thread starting: NOW.

It all depends who is telling you that.....

And stop caring about the killboard...... thats so 00 space.

So says the largest alliance in the game, that asked RvB to come and save them. Well you got me out of VFK I guess. I'm in Josameto now, and I actually managed to kill local, although that was not my intention.

Its nice to see how many 00 LEET PRO's care about us high sec bears...... Even Goonie directors coming to the forums to give financial advice and why we shouldn't spend all our isks on something fun. Which we probably made with selling plex, as we have no clue how economics work

I can't imagine many PI players choosing to use Goonswarm POCO planets. If I were inclined to do PI (heaven forbid), first of all I wouldn't be doing it in highsec. But if I were doing it in highsec, I would look for stability. Defense of a reinforced POCO is not enough - at that point, the POCO customers have already been screwed and are likely planning to relocate. POCOs need to stay open for business. The POCOs near Jita may be "premium" locations for displaying the owners' names, but they are poor choices for PI. So while they may be great catalysts for fights, it's hard to see much profit potential.

The GÇ£youGÇÖre not winning fast enoughGÇ¥ tears from goonies and their pets from this action is very typical of you F1 monkeys tbhGǪ.

This thing could just snowball into a casual and consistent presence in Empire which forces goonies to use alternate means to access trade HUBs etc. and thatGÇÖs effective.

Except no one goes after RvB POCOs, because RvB is unquestionably the strongest highsec PvP organization. On the other hand Goons are a joke in highsec, just like we could see with that 99.6% ISK ratio, and easy reinforces.

Goons simply bluffed RvB into submission, telling them that they COULD threaten RvB POCOs which is an outright joke. It's like saying RvB could threaten Deklein sov.

However Lemmings called on the bluff. And even better, Lemmings don't even want POCOs. We just want Goons not having them. It's only time before RvB realizes that they are pets here, without even getting spoils like FA or SMA.

If that is the case, why the attention? Why did RvB wardec? Why 23 pages with CSMs?
I mean EVE is full of doomed corps and alliances (usually with the line "friendly helpful team looking for people we mine, mission and learn PvP together). Do they all get the same attention? What makes Lemmings special then?

What makes Lemmings special to you making you post in this thread?

IThe truth is that they simply can't afford such things, since they are poor as dirt (see also: bombless bombers), but even if they had, the betrayal of RvB sealed their fate.

Yes, youy're right they don't count, because you didnt want them anyway.... hahahahahahaha .

Looks at poster's alliance and losses to hisec scrubs
Yeah, I can imagine someone being succesful or entertained is beyond you.

D.

Yeh, why would anyone believe the ingame war report.... Eve is full of bugs, so this must be wrong too. RvB and Goonies together would neverrrr everrrr be owned by a 1 week alt alliance. LOL !

Or maybe you just didn't like what you saw and needed something to look less stupid ? If you want to use killboards, we have done wayyyyyyyy more damage :)

http://eve-kill.net/?a=alliance_detail&all_id=9713

24B isk damage done..... or doesn't that count anymore, because it doesn't suite you ?


@space monkey : You dont fool me !! I found your alliance website : http://www.afuntab.com/funny-monkey-face/

I sense much anger in this young padawan ..... You need to more.....

I logged in for about 2 hours the other day, and did about 40b in damages to the goonies, Gevlon should totes pay me.

to be fair, you quitting isn't that big of an announcement.

Yes, big announcement tomorrow, until then, familiarize yourself with your upcoming fate, Goons and pets! Since the forum rules doesn't allow linking of killboards, I merely ask you to look it up yourself. It belongs to a Raven's pod. It was dreadnought-worthy, and something tells me that "dreadnought-worthy" is a familiar term to you beefolk!

Look, I'm cool and laid back.

No stress whatsoever.

Oh, is this thread still going?

I couldn't care less about Gevlon and his scrub alliance.

Hahaha... These type of things make me laugh.

I'm clearly the better man here.

Your arguments have no merrits, hence I ignore them.

clear blue sky... clear blue sky... clear blue sky...

CAN YOU NOW PLEASE GIVE THE ANNOUNCEMENT BEFORE I POP A VEIN!!??!!

Priceless

D.

No worries, we all know Gevlon is winning.
Goons weren't perma-decced by marmites pers+¬, rather 1/3 of the year decced.
Gevlon made it possible for goons to suffer at our hands 24/7 for years to come.

To be exact, I decided to give Marmite (on top of Lemmings) about 150B a year, in very reasonable hope that they cause Goons and their pets about 1.5T damage a year. That's more than what their genius decision to jump into a 2500 men grid did.

Before you'd say "it will just be stolen", it can't. I give it in weekly installments and Marmite can only spend it on permawars (which can be verified on the war interface). The only way to "scam it out" if they permadec Goons and pets but do not shoot them when they have a chance. Because Marmite pilots would definitely let a wartarget freighter go just to make me mad!

And I wouldn't have thought of that if you little bee trolls here wouldn't scream "you just giving Marmite money for nothing".

Oh man, desperate much?

Goon wardec is a fun wardec, not a paid for wardec (untill Mister Gevlon showed up).
We have about 100-150 active wars at any given point in time, many paid for, some with strict goals.
Goons (and spacemonkeys) are so bad that we decced them from time to time just to let off some steam and shoot fish in barrels.
Loot rarely flows back to our alliance, we get to keep it, split among fleetmates.

If anyone needs something desperately friend kell, it's you: a clue.
You have to stop blaming Gevlon, Lemmings and Marmites for you poor choice in alliance, that's entirely on you.
As said before, HTFU.

On the laughable Killing goons in high sec does not hurt the goons. bit....
Dead goons + no SRP = quitting goons = no blobbing of other nullbears = crumbling beehive.

D.



Edit: Same goes for RVB by the way, I think a policy review will be in order rather soon or there won't be that many R's left to play wargames with the B's.

You should look better Like I said before. More plans are being made, but it just takes time to make it happen. Some things are long time planning and you re not seeing all that is already happening. Tip of the day, the one who thinks blue will be blue because they wish too, are going to be pod goo

Since when do you speak for all of Eve ? You know how dumb that looks

It's ok, you can be our special friend.

D.

Funny things about this thread:

1) Hisec wardec on nullsec alliance
2) Goon pets standing up for their masters in a lame attempt to be brought into the swarm
3) The post somewhere around page 2 that says "well lead, organized goon fleets"
4) Goons getting their **** pushed in by marmite then calling them campers

Wow...

So much hate...

1) WTF is a "sperg rage" and where is this rage located? Oh yeah... its not here.
2) You obviously knew that "goon pet" referred to you... which makes it even funnier than before.. lol...
3) Name calling is for kids. Grow up. (calling me dumb, calling people "artards", ect.)
4) Hisec merc killing nullsec'ers helps the nullsec'ers? Your going to have to explain how getting blapped is helping them. Seriously, if you have a point here, id love to hear it.

No scam, we are Gevlon's pets if he wishes. As long as the money's there... meh
I could even think of names more fitting than pets for what we do...

RVB protects the dumb goons (their own words) and to get good fights (on the jita undock?) or something... But I'm not making sense, right?

You keep repeating we only camp Jita/gates, which indeed we do among other places and sometimes we don't even camp But your fixation on where we conduct our business is rather strange, care to share why you keep hammering on that? Is it because... You lost something dear to you on some tradehub undock?

Care to tell me which part of all these simple verifiable facts is nonsensical in your limited mind?

Im as random to you as you are random to me. Or is your alliance something to care about? Nope. At least I am not a wannabe pet of a null bloc alliance. Keep trying. Maybe one day they will let you in. Probably not though.

The reason you wont explain it, is because you are incorrect. While I dont care for them, I have no rage for the goons. I respect their accomplishments if anything. They are good at what they do, or they wouldn't be here. A few of them could use attitiude adjustments, but thats in no shortage here, and doesnt set them aside. So again, ill ask you to point out where I "sperg raged". Please do.

Your answer of question 4 is laughable. Losing ships does not help no matter how much you wanna church it up to "lessons" being learned. Also, if you would read my posts without your choker chain on, you would see that I am not in anyone's corner here. I have no doubts this has no effect on the alliance. Its just funny.

And you sir, are golden entertainment while im stuck at work waiting for them to close the base cause of snow....

I'm sorry, however hard I try, I can't speak raging aspi sperglord....

Have you read my posts? I have not given you any "facts" to dispute! Take your own advice. Read. For god sakes, YOU QUOTED where I said I KNOW IT HAS NO EFFECT on the alliance, and then YOU WROTE ABOUT how I think it will!!

Literally, all I wrote was that its funny. The whole situation. Your dedication to an alliance you aren't part of is the best part.

SHOW ME where I have posted anything other than exactly what this post says. You cant, because I havent.

2) Goon pets standing up for their masters in a lame attempt to be brought into the swarm

4) Goons getting their **** pushed in by marmite then calling them campers

I guess your attempting to say I work at burger king? Lol... because I dont share your opinion of internet spaceships politics I must earn minimum wage and be a complete failure in all my endeavors.

Grow up.

While Marmite and the Lemmings fight side by side, we have the Goons in an "unleash the dog" kind of style instructing RvB to defend their stuff for them.

Care to see the difference?

Or do you think we would now look at the ruins of the once mighty Goonswarm Federation if RvB wouldn't have decided to take up arms against some small alliance on behalf of the goons? A real act of chivalry, given the numbers.

Ok mister sensible, How come it triggered in this particular case wheras it hasn't triggered in other cases?

Do I think that CFC has aspirations of goon-dom? I would say a good bit of them do.

No, I dont hate goons any more than i hate any other alliance. As stated, I respect what they have attained, but like most non-CFC'ers, we set them red and they will be KOS.

My jabs are not just for the goonies. My very first post was that the funniest thing was a HS wardec on a NS alliance. I just call it how I see it.

Yes, I am prior service USAF. Now, I am an email cowboy (like anyone cares, but posted for posterity)

How many billions of isk would be considered damage? How much would be major damage?

Problem is, RVB isn't about protecting nullbear alliances or defending pocos or fighting wars with outsiders. They are about RED vs BLUE. so no, no hypocricy here... might want to look over there.

So the time and resources of CFC pilots is completely worthless and should be ignored.
If CTA's become... not so popular because your bees have to grind isk instead of watching the slideshow with the elite, remind them of this fact. They'll appreciate it.

D.



Edit: And they aren't shooting me... only the newbies owning the goons

Maybe you don't get the fine nuance between lending assistance in times of war versus acting as someone's watchdog. There are no goon fleets defending POCOs that RvB could join in on. That is the whole point.

So how many pocos have we lost so far?

You do realise you are calling hundreds of your fellow pilots worthless dumb waste of space, right?

Fact of the matter is that the majority of nullbear grunts see CTA's as work.
When they are out doing what they want with their own stuff is when they enjoy themselves.

Getting blown up while flying their 'pride and joy' (<- actual quote from different CFC pilots) isn't their idea of fun.
You loose pilots like that, simple isn't it.
Loosing pilots is bad, especially for the CFC since they are built upon the strenght in numbers mantra.
If you can't see that as damage... We'll have to taunt you some more

Same with RVB, let's see how much fun their members have in a few weeks of arguing over fines and loosing ships to noobs, we both know the deaths won't stop. There will be damage.

Nowhere have I claimed to bring goonswarm to it's knees but damage we have done, plenty of it and will continue to do untill Gevlon stops paying us for the pleasure

Lucas Kell, I'm sure all your CFC bro's love you to bits. quite the pleasant fellow you are, being the only source of information ever . Must be very entertaining having someone who is always 'right' among your peers.
If it weren't for your utter lack of any ingame skills you'd be perfect, nobody likes a mister perfect so your good.

I'm guessing none since the BIG ANNOUNCEMENT from Mr. Goblins blog this morning eschews any hurf blurf about pocos and instead seems to focus on the forever war on the Jita undock against shuttles and pods.

Does this dude realize any idiot killed in Perimeter or Amarr or 'damage' done in highsec are individual dumbs and no alliance level assets were harmed in the making of that killmail?

I'd rather not comment on the trolling/tears/madness of Goons and Lucas in the last 5 pages.

About POCOs: we have to recruit enough people to be able to shoot a POCO in reasonable speed (frigates don't cut it) and handle random RvB rabble in the same time. When that's done, we still won't be able to take POCOs, because the RvB will start forming purple fleets to protect the assets of their masters.

When RvB pilots no longer sign up for purple fleets because they end up as a big blob trashing up local and getting no fights, then we'll take all the POCOs in a week.

Alternatively, when N3 realizes that RvB is a CFC member and bans their members having alts in RvB, we waltz in an take the POCOs.

Not just the Goon ones.

I think I may set up a troll POCO empire around Jita with 0% tax for everyone.

Yes, I admit, I'm clueless, enlighten me!

I checked and found one recent occurence where goons wardecced a corp, promptly lost the war and Marmites had nothing to do with it. So who is the fool now?

Getting under your skin am I? Well, keep feeding me and I come back for more

I wish people would call me fat :( I'm 6 foot 3 and only weigh 157 pounds :(

Oooooh, touchy subject there
Tell you what, you show me a picture of an equally sized marmite fleet on that undock and I'll concede.
Oh wait, said picture only exists in your head? Gotcha! Go back to camping Jitta 4-4 as your goon overlords command you to do

Hi Lucas, missed me?

It is a touchy subject. Read their forums and chat. Since you are all one big happy family you should know such things.
To you the same challenge, show us all and I'll concede... I'll even put a funny hat on or something.

Also, learn English please. Handing around on an undock?

D.



Not posting, I'll edit
Saeger, that was from when YOU were a marmite, indeed at that time there were 10-20 of us in Jita at any given time but we've grown, I suggest you do the same.

Khador Vess: challenge accepted, show us the money!

After reading today's entertaining post from goblin, I got lost. Rvb were rmt'ing goon pets, when now it seems they are n3 pets. And lemmings totally didn't fail - the numbers say so! You can see all those burning pocos everywhere.

Kind of funny how you try to bait them with the POCO argument; clearly a longterm goal. You would love to swoop them out with a large fleet given the chance, wouldn't you?

Considering the damage they have done and the fast growth they have achieved in only two weeks I would be worried too, if I were you. Even if it were only for exposing the unholy alliance between RvB and the Goonswarm, I would say they have been pretty successful so far.

Good luck to the Lemmings and to Spergtacus, your cause is a just one!

So much ass kissing going on here..... how can you look at yourself in the mirror every day

Yes announced and known, but was it ever really challenged?

As for Spergtacus, yes he is indeed a bit excentric. I happen to occasionally read his blog and your sweetheart comments too, you know. But what you might call normal, I might call 'boring' or even 'small minded'. While he has pretty weird ideas and views at times, he happens to come up with the pretty good ones as well. This here is pure gold and I approve of this new product/service.

No need to show us how terrible you guys are. We already know that.

And Goonies, stop caring so much about highsec and Lemmings Forum post. Really, it wil make you sleep better at night

Your Tears Are Zzzzweeaatt......

Oh man... General Lemmings, I yield. You win. Elite master baiter

Lucas, Lucas, poor Lucas... Incredibly delusional sense of grandeur having Lucas.
Were you there, Lucas? Did you have stakes in that fight?
No, didn't think so.

Do you have stakes in Hisec? No... at least I don't think you do if your bragging is anything to go by.
(Maybe you had at some point, but we've been over it, you lost those to mercs or gankers )

Do you have stakes in Goons? Nope! except for being a miner/carebear in one of their (notoriously bad) pet/renter alliances, nothing.

Do you have any other stakes in this thread in general... well; I think I figured it out. You are jelly.
Jelly because of the awesome traffic mister Goblin is attracting to his awesome BLOG.
Jelly because your sad excuse for a blog isn't even remotely as interesting as his.
^^ do note, I can say your blog sucks without impunity, because you said I can.
Jelly because as opposed to you, mister Goblin is good at getting the attention he wants.

You try sooo hard to be someone... Allow me to suggest doing stuff instead of typing about how great and how smart you are.
Heck, even RVB and Goons are doing stuff, why aren't you?

Haha, Lucas, you are allmost as funny as my special friend S.

I looked you up. Wasn't surprised one bit.

your killboard has a gap, where in August, 2013 you... well... were doing what any spacemonkey does best.

And since we've had a go on you on the forums, in Januari, 2014 you suddenly decided to join some blobs in an interceptor?

What's that about? Trying to prove something there buddy?

Every time you try and weasle yourself out of the painfull truth by attacking the content I provide you with, you loose and I laugh. Just figured I'd mention it

Now now, just because I show your badness you don't have to start childish name calling, Lucas.
Bad sportmanship right there.

I don't troll.

Thanks for proving my point, again and again though.

Edit: I'll help you, my point is you are an elitist mittani-wannabe nobody who tries to smother out truth and facts with utter garbage. Your head is so far stuck up your own big fat biased head it creates a moebius belt that defies all laws of physics.

Easy, from your posts.

I'll start with your first steps in this very thread;
Realistically he's filled with impotent rage and wants to express it.
This is a bit unclear for people who don;t read the nonsense on your blog
Uh oh, some ships died. Dork Homeworld wins eve.
If that's how far down you highsec guys need to bring the bar to feel victorious then by all means go ahead.
I present to you Gevlon Goblin, *Snip* Please refrain from personal attacks. ISD Ezwal
Gevlon is a dumbass
That... That is just way too much stupid for a single post.
offload the bill to a naive moron.
Jita undock, Jita undock, Jita undock, Jita undock, Jita undock, Jita undock
Basically you are having a whine
Oh no, I am stung by your words.
Please bear with me as I reel from the pain you have caused.

And it just got worse and worse.
Now, please show me where I clearly lack any grasp on the english language, proving I'm dumb and stuff.

To add to the topic at hand, Lemmings for the win!

Luca's

Danalee is trolling the hell out of you

Stop posting walls of text he only feeds off it.

Don't feed the trolls!


or at lest troll him back (if you can).


p.s I have my popcorn ready

All in the very same post... lamo.

Go sit in the corner, Lucas! You are acting like a child.

What's up with you forum goons today? I came here for my daily dose of goon-propaganda, hoping to see some pompous do funny dances or at least be reassured that you don't care about losing your stuff and then I have to come home to this? Seriously? Shameful...

How low... Are you already out of pseudo arguments that you have to crawl through the man's blog for pictures? "LOL your gf is ugly we win". What's next, a nose dive through his garbage can?

The analogy simply doesn't make any sense either; not even remotely. Are all the sharp knifes to busy trolling N3/PL about the titans right now?

Please deliver!

HINT of the day : I don't want RvB to stop

Just because you can't see the reasons why I want things to happen as they happen, doesn't make it wrong

Confirming, X trillion goonies dead/tears

Well, we just paid you guys a visit... are you for real?
Hotdropping a small frig/cruiser gang with your kitchensink is your idea of good fights and is superior to hisec wars?
Might want to have that checked, because it ain't ticking right.

It seams like your answer to a modest 'you nullbears only blob' is COME AT US AND WE'LL BLOB! WRAAARW

looks like Gevlon's new plan is to put legions of hiseccers into capitals and use them to conquer our space

please, please do this, i can't wait to kill a bunch of shitfit chimeras and phoenixesbe liberated from the ball and chain of sovereignty

Why would they be **** fitted ? You think you are the only Eve god who can properly fit a ship ? Its not that hard It seems you assume that players in high sec never been in other space before. A bit dumb mate. But besides that, I agree it would be stupid to do so. A large force in Eve you do not fight head on. You use guerrilla tactics, as any resistance group could tell you. And that we will. We will hit your rentals till they leave you, we will send groups to drop on your ratters, we will hit your freighters and we will deny you any movement outside Goonie space. Just to mention a few things. Remember all great things started small. Let's talk in another year or so. Then I'll remind you about your mistakes today

You should read the post about to never underestimate your enemies. You could learn from it.

If you get your asses kicked by bad fitted T1 ships already, what will happen with T2 fitted ships ? Think about 20B+ in 2 weeks or so. Time to wake up. And trust me, I have done enough damage to most of you the last year.

That's why Goonies directors reaallllyyy dont care about this entire thing. Ohh wait...

IGÇÖm pretty impressed with the volume of tears this thread has produced so far tbh. I know 5 peeps so far that had alts they werenGÇÖt using that now have a purpose when they want to chill outside Jita gankin goonies while mining on the other screensGǪ

Do you have a casual ingame channel yet to let folks can watch with their main so they know when the level of goonie is rising in Jita so they can log in their ganking alt?

When you hit 1,000 kills you should throw a fireworks party on the undockGǪ

Why ? They mainly kick your ass with T3. That might be a next step.

Oooh Lucas, you silly willy, if we'd want that we would just join a nullbear alliance in the CFC and boast about our conquest of known space.

yes, quite instant.

Join spacemonkeys.
Get blapped by hisec dwellers.
boast about owning nullsec.
... profit?

if at first, second, third, fourth, fifth, sixth, etc you don't succeed, just say you did and stick your fingers in your ears and sing loudly

This is fun!Lucas Kell, ladies and gentleman.
Savior of nullbears everywhere!

In my personal opinion, the Lemmings ought to target PBLRD since this is the real Goonswarm cash cow. As I type this, I am in a system in null with 1 other player in local, and according to CFC rental terms, this system costs the corp renting it 7 billion isk per month!

Now PBLRD have a lot of space rented from the Goons, totalling 135 sov systerms. How else do you think Goons can afford all those Titan losses without caring?

Funny how they are all able to but fail doing so. They cant even get enough Scimi pilots online

And you are asking me that .... someone get this nubcake a mirror !

Now now, lucas. We've been over this.
And anyways, killboards/losses don't mean anything, right?

It's a mystery! Oh wait, it's not...

On hiding behind the anonymity of an alt... err, Lucas, why don't you link your main? Ah, because marmites ganked the crap out of him in hisec... forgot that

I'm not trolling by the way, I just can't wrap my little head arround the fact that someone with such a bloated ego like you can be a combination of that stupid and that arrogant.... That's all.

^^ Don't make me quote you again... Forum police don't like it when I quote you.
And get your stories straight maybe? One time you're the savior of null heading the call in your interceptor of doom and than you are the nullbear I've been claiming from the start you are.... Sjees.

That right there hurt my feelings..........

A lot

A Goonswarm diplomat who is a really cool dude recently implied that I hate SMA. Let me be clear that I don't hate entire alliances for the ****** posting of a few of their members.

I think he kinda just meant you there ... just saying .

Yeh, we saw the call for help from Powers. We lolled at the panic call for reps.

Out of interest, what's wrong with high sec ganking then?

Will you head the call and fly your interceptor into the hearth of the enemie?

Because having to clear 80-odd killrights before I can go & rep POCO is meaningless.

Yes I'm sure those 50m+ killrights are no issue at all to clear. All I have to do is undock my Ashimmu & hope someone takes the bait before a wartarget comes along. I'm sure I can get them cleared in the 3 hours leading up to the first POCO exited reinforced.

The odds make this even funnier. lol @ goonies

Isn't that exactly how partisans would fight an occupying force? Instead of clashing into huge armies that vastly outnumber you, you go out and commit acts of sabotage; attack supply lines (renters) etc and retreat back into the hills. Simply make the occupation to costly to continue.

This has worked out just fine in the history of mankind. I can't see why this wouldn't apply to internet spaceship games. They don't have to destroy all the POCOs; they have to achieve that keeping them costs more than giving them up.

I wouldn't be to fixated on the POCOs that much anyway. Spergtacus said that this is a permawar to shoot Goonies until kingdom comes and attacking POCOs is one way to have them show up for you. Somehow this turned into clever "Haha, you want all our POCOS, why haven't you destroyed them yet?!" counter-propaganda from the Goons.

Moving ships? It's precisely because highsec offers immunity to alliance logistics that it should be reasonably viable to do it. Unless CCP decide you can only fly a freighter/JF in highsec if it's in a corp of 10+ members for a week, you'll forever see neutral alts operating in highsec with immunity to their enemies. We do it, everyone does it. Miniluv deliberately targets freighters in highsec where we know it belongs to an enemy, and I can tell you the grind to fix your sec status / etc is tedious as all get out.
Arguing that people should be punished (via endless tedium) for attacking enemies of theirs in a PVP game is one of the bad arguments that shows you're thinking 'entrenched eve logic' and not 'how it should be' logic.

I agree, but the question remains why call upon allies and risk to alienate them when you don't need them. Do they actually need help? RvB stated before that it would be better for their own gameplay to be more like Switzerland and all the propaganda aside it looks a little bit like they are letting themself get used.

The consequences to these actions should be the people I shot going and shooting me and my friends in revenge, and such is how a sandbox should be.

The consequence shouldn't be the invincible space po-po turning up out of thin air to blow you up, followed by writing a scrip which says "as penance please spend a number of hours to go and find red crosses somewhere and please shoot them wait a number of minutes and then shoot some more".

e: if you think -10 ganking is easy you haven't done it. Anything other than instant point-to-point warps and you get exploded. This makes coordination something of a big pain. It also makes solo ganking have an entry fee of a second account just to give warpins, and potentially even a third account to throw ships at your main in a pod. Please at least try it for a length of time before claiming it's not a significant deterrent to doing it; there's a reason we grind our sec status to keep it positive despite it being a chore unto itself.

e2: -10 ganking is basically pod killing, nothing more. Anything more involved than landing on grid, locking and popping a pod means you want to have decent enough sec status to keep the fac pol off you.

Hey, we are already like goons and TEST after 3 weeks! Thank you Lucas.

Getting too smug can be your downfall, I remember the last time Goons became smug and they fell spectacularly like most of the old big alliances. Time will tell.

Hey, little bees! A little gift to you! Or rather, to your pets who believed that they joined the big and strong Goons.

I understand that. But SMA was also famous for its industrial community. And the mighty Mittani decided that culture, traditions and whatever aside, half membership must be purged for not participating.

This is my point. Goonwaffe are demanding performance but not performing itself. Hence the "masters and pets" difference. SMA was couldn't get away with what is the norm in Goonwaffe. If all CFC members were encouraged to keep useless "friends" around, it would be fine. But having such people is the privilege of the pure blood Goons, pets are "lined up and shot" for the same.

So much talking ;)
Our Game is pretty simple kill the Goons and their RVB Pets !

Maybe General Lemming is scamming Ze Goblin?

And thats the reason why You cry here like a sissy? :)

It's actually Lemming internal propaganda. Fighting RvB isn't fun because they fly frigs and T1 cruisers. I remember when I was doing something similar: ganking Retrievers. Man, that was boring! You can kill them all day and have less on your killboard than if you'd gank a single Mackinaw.

On the other hand jackpods like this gives enough laughter to make one go another day grinding frigs/retrievers.

I wonder why do Goons talk about fault when Lemmings just passed 200 members in less than 2 weeks and the damage Marmite and Lemmings together done in 2014 to GSF, Greatern western, RvB and assorted pets are over the price of a Titan?!

Sure. The new norm is 70 titans, but give us some time.

@Lucas Kell

Its Time to tell you a secret about me

I fought the goons with several toons in almost every fight the last few years.

I was there as Fountain fall and fought to my last rifter.

btw shame on enlighted industries!!!

I will be always there where is a Chance to get bee pods.

and i dont give f*** about Blogs or this creepy News site!

you can try to divide us with your "you should get paid stuff" it doesnt care me at all.

if somone would donate a fully faction fitted vindicator to me i would go straight ahead to vfk and ram it into goons face.

and why ?

I dont like your arrogance and i think iam not alone with that

the goons are a fat whale sitting on the most of the 0.0 income and deny younger alliances to find their place in 0.0 sec.

but there is blood in the water

Your first sentence is glaring! I see the impact this is having by this thread alone being at 57 pages.

Marmite is one of the elite

You gotta give it to Gevlon tho.

He's putting the money where his mouth his.
He is creating content ingame and on the forums :)

Goons are like me telling my wife its in her best interest to stop shopping. Really hun....its not for me, I just want to protect you and you money.

Lemmings are at 260 members now, with a few more corp waiting for the 24hours to end. This weekend at 300. Slowly growing, growing and building. Good to see more and more TEST guys joining. And even RvB

If you wish to have easy targets and enjoy pew pew, join with your corp today!

The point is it all has to start somewhere and arrogance/Ignorance of any empire that they cannot lose or be defeated is shown throughout history to be a bad strategy.

From a third party looking in you could also say the same thing, recruitment wise, for the CFC and RVB.

More contradiction, I think you should stop posting now as your getting all mixed up.

I believe I quoted your words in a previous reply, Maybe those rose tinted glasses you are wearing are stopping you from reading your own words.

Ever hear of alts? They are an interesting concept, read up!

Hey Goonies, more statistics!
I'm afraid, even Lucas will start doubting in you now!

Tell me ohh great war lord, how does you great da BIG army ?

EDIT : Ok, never mind, we are already working on that it seems Nubcakes!

Come to Lemmings! We have cookies!
Made of RvB corpses, spiced with Goon tears!

In all honesty I'd be more likely to return to Lemmings than join the Goons. Unless the Goons are willing to pay me 500 million isk security deposit to guard against awox

It's only a game

Wrong. Current plan is:

1)Hisec wardec
2)
3)Goonswarm defeated! Huzzah!

Just let me handle this building an army thing and you guys can focus on things you might be smart enough for. Don't play with the big boys if you are still in the little league

Hey beefolk, your true self just got exposed to the world!

You shouldn't have enslave RvB and send on the Lemmings. You shouldn't have!

Oh look a link to EN24 propoganda. I thought it was a link to WoW game time cards or perhaps some cryptic link to finally bring down the Goon "menace."

Honestly this stupid Goon hatred has no place on C&P. Stick it on your two bit blog that has the layout of a DOS program splattered in crayola...

Man this dude just keeps trying to convince us we are fabulously wealthy and masters of the universe. Surely this will be our undoing.

Call it: The Mittanis Final Mistake Reloaded

And then you separate "trolling" from "real personal attacks" where suits you best. Oh well, I guess The Mittani during the fanfest incident was trolling too, the epitome of goonesque.

You see, this is the problem. I don't think the in-game strategy of Goons is bad. I think they are bad people.

I was preaching from the very start that you must earn money to be successful, therefore "carebears" should be invited and welcomed into nullsec alliances (not just tolerated as renters). Most nullsec people disagree with me and go for "pure PvP, damn carebears". This makes them bad in a game, but they are honest men in real life as they do what they preach.

In this we fully disagree and this is one thing I wish to disprove now. I do nothing in Lemmings and Marmites than making ISK. That's my contribution to their war. I barely fly combat. Yet I'm useful, enabling their kills by paying the wardec bills. The null ratter gives the tax to his corp, even if he doesn't mean to.

But that's a disagreement over a game which doesn't make any of us bad real life people, regardless of the merit of carebearing.

Goons on the other hand rat day and night, but force their pets to kick "useless carebears". Which make them real life liars and no better than the chess master who writes a book to novice players, full of purposefully bad advices just to decrease the number of later competitors.